i know the feeling
in one of the films on my dvd there is a shot where a bullet flies past someones face (mine in fact!) and everytime people say oh copying the matrix.
which if we were then fine but its just ignorance mainly.
I've come here to complain. If I have an idea of some kind where characters have a talk about some kind of sex, while doing something completely else - I won't do it anymore because somone's bound to say: "It feels to Tarantinoesque". Or, I have an idea about structuring my screenplay. Doing it non-chronological and therefore enhancing the impact it will give on the audience. Someone might say: "You've got that idea from Tarantino". Fuck.
I didn't. I had that idea myself. The fact that someone has done it before, and that it did have great impact, doesn't mean that when I do something along the lines of it I will use the Tarantino-bull.
Maybe on a subconcious(sp?) level.
If someone writes really annoying intellectual crap, will they call him david-lynch-esque?
I don't know man, I'm just complaining here.
i know the feeling
in one of the films on my dvd there is a shot where a bullet flies past someones face (mine in fact!) and everytime people say oh copying the matrix.
which if we were then fine but its just ignorance mainly.
EVERYTHING can be likened to something else.
Although it's a very depressing thought- is there anything original anymore?
There's a theory which I'm starting to believe more and more- that there are only 35 original stories. (When broken down to it's simplest form.) Try watching a few of Akira Kurosawa's films and see if they remind you of any other films.
As for style and execution, Tarantino and the Wachowskis openly talk about what their influences are. As long as you can be honest about what influenced you AND what originality you've created, then where's the problem?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't complain, just get on with it!!! [img]cool.gif[/img]I've come here to complain.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 31, 2003 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Kev Owens ]</font>
Therein lies the answer. If someone calls you a hack... tell them it was a homage.
Sucks doesn't it. I guess as long as you yourself know you didnt rip someone off. And you can justify the method in question.
I posted a script here a while back which I was aware slightly resembled AMORES PERROS. Someone else even picked up on it. But I wrote it before I had even heard of PERROS - it hadn't even come out yet. Oh well. But even the writer/director of PERROS did the same exact thing in his follow-up, 21 GRAMS, repeating the structure and certain obvious elements.
Those guys were ALSO only 'copying' other ideas themselves... they just happened to make successful and recognisable films with these borrowed conventions people associate them with!
...Anyway... what do you think Hollywood make!?
Formulaic, genre dross... only the people who use the conventions and make something original are the true great directors/producers.
Nothing is copied. Only borrowed. Or influenced.
Hell, you want to talk about Tarontino copying? Look at Kill Bill. Blantent Copy of tons of old movie styles. But he admits that and even boast about it, so it is cool.
But I understand the frustration, I have been there many a time.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds like a good idea, but if its about anything criminal, and people say 'fuck' alot, then he'll be acused of ripping off Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels & Snatch.Originally posted by anasazifilms.com on a different topic:
I'm writing a feature at the moment called "Louder Than Words" (Working title)... its a multiplot dark comedy film set in Manchester.
I'll post some stuff about it soon...
I've got an idea rattling around right now. The premise is great and its got an ending to rival The Sixth Sense. The problem is, if it ever goes big, people will say all I was trying to do was go for the ending shock made popular by the 6th Sense, Fight Club, Primal Fear, The Usual Suspects, ect ect.
With being out of sequence, I don't think anyone has described Irreversible or Memento as 'Tarantino-esque'. Wha annoys me (and this is going to sound so big-headed) is when my Dad compares me to Martin Scorsese/Paul Schraeder, just because my screenplay is about a young guy living life on the brink of madness who goes insane at the end and kills lots of people, and because my script has a lot of decsriptive camera terms that my Dad is sure I've stolen from the great Scorsese.
He's right, but it sure does annoy me (LOL)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I dont see that myself. While its obvious you are going to get stick if the movie is about gangster who talk about big macs or guys who can dodge bullets in the slow motion since when is writing a big twist a copy of something else? Big twists have been around for years. As long as you make sure its nothing like Planet Of the Apes you will be fine.The premise is great and its got an ending to rival The Sixth Sense. The problem is, if it ever goes big, people will say all I was trying to do was go for the ending shock made popular by the 6th Sense, Fight Club, Primal Fear, The Usual Suspects, ect ect.
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